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Ikhwan Online blocked??

Tue, 2005/05/24 - 06:40 — alaa

Arabist reports that ikhwan online might be blocked in Egypt.

this is not the first time this happens, and one case went to court, the government never denied the claims, but the sites where unblocked.

I don't know much yet but one big problem with blocking is to prove it happens, I want to collect traceroute data from all egyptian ISPs to confirm and document, please help

Link.net 


$ traceroute ikhwanonline.com
traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  router (192.168.0.1)  0.414 ms  0.336 ms  0.332 ms
 2  62.135.86.1 (62.135.86.1)  341.498 ms  301.400 ms  379.071 ms
 3  * 172.17.4.149 (172.17.4.149)  615.741 ms  514.956 ms
 4  * 172.17.4.121 (172.17.4.121)  527.554 ms 172.17.4.101 (172.17.4.101)  478.521 ms
 5  * * *
 6  * * *
 7  * * *

TEDATA 


$ traceroute ikhwanonline.comh
traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.2)  2318.464 ms 2106.694 ms  1751.718 ms
 2  host-163.121.151.24.tedata.net (163.121.151.24)  1815.486 ms  2401.879 ms  1494.771 ms
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * * *


traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  10.1.1.1 (10.1.1.1)  1.081 ms  1.537 ms  1.016 ms
 2  host-81.10.17.93.tedata.net (81.10.17.93)  1.169 ms  1.173 ms  1.069 ms
 3  MAADI2R001 (163.121.138.8)  66.645 ms 199.630 ms  447.660 ms
 4  * * *
 5  * * *

Internet Egypt 


# traceroute ikhwanonline.com
traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  192.168.16.205 (192.168.16.205)  28.472 ms  29.116 ms  81.124 ms
 3  194.79.108.35 (194.79.108.35)  38.045 ms  30.992 ms  79.579 ms
 4  62.193.104.121 (62.193.104.121)  38.068 ms 194.79.101.29 (194.79.101.29)  42.572 ms  37.536 ms
 5  * * *
 6  * * *

this is exactly the same pattern I observed last time, the blocking is on the IP level (its not a webproxy) and ISPs are directly involved.

we need to find out which government agency is behind the blocking, how they work with ISPs and what are the legal tools employed here, we also need to think about an effective stratege to combat this in court.

will try to publish more info about the previous case I'm abit out of touch now.

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Tue, 2005/06/21 - 23:25 — ... (not verified)

might be helpful

http://www.traceroute.org

Mon, 2005/05/30 - 19:27 — yousf (not verified)

irregular banning!

Alaa talk about why did they banned .com and still leaving .org:

.com was blocked long time ago (I think more than a year), the .org one is still fresh one. 


Created On:24-Feb-2003 10:35:37 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Apr-2005 16:52:02 UTC
Expiration Date:24-Feb-2006 10:35:37 UTC

althought the .org domain is old, but I have never heared about it.

Sat, 2005/05/28 - 17:05 — yousf (not verified)

who said that!

Slamo alykom

I don't know When Ikhwan asked about internet censorshep. but at all the ikhwan site is blocked from more than a year. ikhwanonline.com

well, they did some kind of proxying thru another domain: http://ikhwanonline.org/

I don't know much about that Tracerouting and censorship, so I can't know how did they make an access to their site.

Sat, 2005/05/28 - 18:52 — alaa

و لما هو من سنة

مبيعملوش حاجة ليه، مبيرفعوش قضية بدين أمهم ليه؟

مفيش قانون يسمح للحكومة تعمل كده ساكتين ليه بأى؟

Sun, 2005/05/29 - 01:37 — mo7afez (not verified)

تضليل

ايه يا سيادة الريس البيانات المضللة دي

ماهو الموقع شغال وزي الفل اهو ikhwanonline.org

يجوز هما ما كانوش يعرفوا ان

.com stands for commercial, .org stands for organization

ماهو الوفد كان كده برضه

ودي اول خطوة على طريق الاصلاح وانتم بقى نفسكوا معاهم تفهموهم البديهيات دي.

صباح غيبوبة التكنولوجيا اللي معارضة المحروسة فيها الا العمرانية طبعا ... ههههههه

Sun, 2005/05/29 - 03:43 — zede7ly

lel mo7afez

كنت عاوز اعرف بس محافظ محافظة اية اوعى تكون سنتماى

Sun, 2005/05/29 - 04:41 — mo7afez (not verified)

لالالا

محافظ دي يعني مش عايز اغير ... يبقى الوضع كما هو عليه وعلى المتضرر اللجوء الى الهراء

مش زي ما انت فاكر يا عم الحضراوي هههههههه

Sun, 2005/05/29 - 02:00 — alaa

توضيح

معلش هاخد كلامك جد عشان الناس اللى مش عارفة.

موقع الاخوان مقفول على المصريين عن طريق منع الوصول للIP بتاعه، ikhwanonline.com بيشتغل فى أى حتة فى الدنيا لكن مش بيشتغل فى مصر، و ده مش الموقع الوحيد المقفول موقع جريدة الشعب كمان.

اللى حاصل ان ikwhanonline.org بتشاور على IP تانى و ده مقفلهوش لسه.

ليه قفلوا .com و مقفلوش .org? ليه قفلوا .com أصلا و ليه الأخوان مش بيعافروا؟

علمى علمك

Sat, 2005/05/28 - 17:41 — alaa

فى مجلس الشعب

يابا ده مشروع قانون اتقدم بيه واحد من جبانات الاخوان و ربنا يكتر من أمثالهم عشان تخرب خاااااااااااالص و نخلص.

جتهم النيلة هما و الأحزاب و الحكومة و كل الحاجات اللى ريحتها فاحت دى.

Fri, 2005/05/27 - 10:42 — Anonymous (not verified)

soficom dosen't reach the des

soficom dosen't reach the destination also working on leasedLine

Fri, 2005/05/27 - 06:26 — estr4ng3d (not verified)

Positive, TE Data ADSL

Positive, TE Data ADSL

Tue, 2005/05/24 - 20:13 — Al-Basha (not verified)

traceroute from usa

Traceroute from UCSD - is hop 10 RITSEC?

Al-Basha 


Tracing route to ikhwanonline.com [216.55.165.36]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    57 ms    26 ms     6 ms  42.0.0.1
  2     9 ms     4 ms     5 ms  wireless-gw.ucsd.edu [128.54.48.1]
  3    70 ms    64 ms    73 ms  ucsd-gw--nodem-msfc-ge.ucsd.edu [132.239.255.130]
  4    53 ms    71 ms    66 ms  inet-lax-isp--ucsd-ucsd1-ge.cenic.net [137.164.24.209]
  5    53 ms    18 ms     8 ms  unknown.Level3.net [64.156.191.9]
  6    29 ms    11 ms    22 ms  so-0-3-0.bbr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.96.77]
  7    95 ms   103 ms    25 ms  so-3-0-0.mp2.SanDiego1.Level3.net [64.159.1.138]

  8    12 ms    10 ms     9 ms  so-7-0-0.gar1.SanDiego1.Level3.net [4.68.113.70]

  9    19 ms    10 ms    11 ms  Aplus-gw.Level3.net [209.245.56.130]
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11    43 ms    35 ms    35 ms  NS1.MIHIRA.NET [216.55.165.36]

Trace complete.
Tue, 2005/05/24 - 18:20 — issandr (not verified)

ikhwan asked for censorship?

Hey Alaa,

good work keeping track of this. I heard Link.net works, by the way, although maybe that's because they use some kind of proxy.

I'm intrigued by your comment about the Ikhwan MPs asking for the internet to be censored. Do you have any more info on that?

Thanks!

Tue, 2005/05/24 - 21:33 — alaa

link doesn't work

nope doesn't work from link got 4 reports from there.

as for their request to censor the net it was reported on one of the blogs and I think Al destour had a story about it, not sure which keywords to search for though.

mohammed says it could be the old block and been around even when they made the censorship proposal.

the block is very irregular, not all ikhwan websites and domains are blocked.

http://al-shaab.org seems to be blocked too.

Tue, 2005/05/24 - 13:29 — mo7afez (not verified)

Thanx

Thnk u dear for the technical srticle u sent ... It was new and useful for me

I didn't know ur openion about it, r u happy or what

and I need to know others comments about that block

bye

Tue, 2005/05/24 - 14:53 — alaa

of course I'm not happy

why would censorship make me happy, internet censorship is the biggest of all evils.

tab3an its very ironic that the fucking ikhwan MPs where asking for internet censorship few weeks ago, they got it up their asses, but still even if its ironic it doesn't make me happy.

I was actually involved in the previous case BTW.

Tue, 2005/05/24 - 08:15 — mostafa (not verified)

thanks alaa

Hey, thanks for explaining and doing this mini-research. BTW I am link.net user and have a different pattern: 

 /usr/sbin/traceroute ikhwanonline.com
traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  1.243 ms  0.892 ms  0.658 ms
 2  82.201.233.254 (82.201.233.254)  42.767 ms  41.919 ms  40.579 ms
 3  172.17.1.149 (172.17.1.149)  40.904 ms  42.671 ms  74.265 ms
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * * *

I am sure there are other ways to fight the censorship. Ways that we can employ. For example we can issue a press release or a simply a blog about this ... google bomb this post with the names of the isps. We could block the blocking IPs from reaching the aggregator etc.. complain to an internet body concerened with free speech.

I don't know, what do you think ?

Tue, 2005/05/24 - 07:29 — alaa

traceroute explained

in case you don't know what a traceroute is read the wikipedia article

this is how it should normally look like:

result of tracerouting manalaa.net on link.net 


$ traceroute manalaa.net
traceroute to manalaa.net (209.135.157.57), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  router (192.168.0.1)  0.418 ms  0.392 ms  0.326 ms
 2  62.135.86.1 (62.135.86.1)  273.604 ms  166.813 ms  116.997 ms
 3  172.20.1.37 (172.20.1.37)  167.869 ms  284.478 ms  259.109 ms
 4  172.18.1.250 (172.18.1.250)  170.703 ms  313.413 ms  731.446 ms
 5  80.77.0.53 (80.77.0.53)  385.717 ms  248.989 ms  369.758 ms
 6  so-0-1-0.0.cjr01.alx001.flagtel.com (62.216.128.73)  199.114 ms  178.479 ms  182.197 ms
 7  so-3-2-0.0.cjr01.ldn001.flagtel.com (62.216.128.137)  254.525 ms  445.535 ms  273.948 ms
 8  so-2-1-0.0.cjr01.ldn004.flagtel.com (62.216.129.50)  522.922 ms *  626.222 ms
 9  195.66.226.185 (195.66.226.185)  453.668 ms  416.883 ms  216.504 ms
10  p10-0.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.0.46)  258.890 ms  337.120 ms  394.877 ms
11  p5-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.110)  310.345 ms  385.503 ms  306.868 ms
12  p2-0.core01.stl02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.66)  486.310 ms  372.504 ms  478.648 ms
13  * p1-0-1-0.a00.stlsmo04.us.ce.verio.net (198.88.239.198)  438.215 ms  307.007 ms
14  sys-216.87.62.253.primary.net (216.87.62.253)  392.159 ms  338.959 ms  582.716 ms
15  * stl-colo-01.primary.net (216.87.63.12)  736.515 ms  664.630 ms
16  vs657.rosehosting.com (209.135.157.57)  537.495 ms  418.485 ms  370.844 ms

you'll notice that traceroute reports is will try to reach (209.135.157.57), and thats the IP address that is reached in the last step.

in the case if ikhwanonline.com the final step is never reached, the final step is actually inside the ISPs network (we can find out who owns any IP address by asking the whois database).

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